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wounded today in a small village in syria. >> terrified survivors. witnesses say people were standing in lines for bread when a syrian military jet bombed the bakery. more than 100 people were reported dead. that number may go way up as night goes on. full report from the region in just a moment here on cnn. nine days left before you face a new year with higher taxes. apparently a fiscal cliff solution is not wrapped up as a gift under your christmas tree. makers are home for the holidays. house speaker john boehner is in ohio, president obama is in his native hawaii. you'll hear about a last ditch effort that may happen after the holiday. that story just a few moments away here as well. >> a united states senator was arrested for drunk driving early sunday morning. idaho republican was taken to jail in alexandria virginia after midnight.
he was stopped for running a red light and charged with driving under the influence. the senator has issued an apology. he was released on $1,000 bond and he has a court date. christmas, two days away, and for much of the country it's going to be a white one. heavy snowfall has blanketed several states up to five feet of snow is expected. snow is also falling back east as well. like lake effect snow has blanketed areas around cleveland and buffalo. high winds are threatening to delay flights in new york, philadelphia and washington. the report you're about to see has very graphic images of people hurt and dying. the latest from western syria, where more than 100 people were killed today as they waited in line for bred. mohammed jamjoon is in bay routes. >> reporter: a scene filled with carnage.
a massacre, screams the man. they targeted the bakery. a bakery where hungry civilians have been standing in line to get bread. one eyewitness described the grizzly aftermath. >> from 200 meters away, i could see corpses as i walked toward the bakery. bodies piled on top of each other, it was an impossible scene. there was no word to describe it. >> he was one of the first on the scene filmed this video. the wounded are carried away as rebels and civilians dig up mangled corporations from the rubble. shock and grief quickly turned to anger. where are you world asks this man pointing to the destruction. come see the bodies. they were waiting for bread. activists tell cnn this town is full of anti-regime sentiment.
>> he was liberated a week ago. the regime surrounded it completely, cutting us off from the world no one was allowed in or out. even water and bread were cut off. we're able to reach an aid organization and able to obtain dough. >> they were able to open one of the town's bakeries around 1:00 p.m. and the rocket struck hours later. as nearby hospitals quickly filled up, activists began pleading for help. >> now, as more and more rebel groups promise retaliation for this attack, fears mount in syria, which has already claimed the lives of more than 40,000 people will only get worse. mohammed jamjoon, cnn beirut. the question looming over the quiet capitol, is congress ready to plunge over the fiscal cliff? earlier i spoke with brianna keeler, i asked her what might happen as the holiday week rolls on? >> well, there's one sort of
last ditch effort possibility here, don, and that is when the senate reconvenes on the 27th, it's possible that either they could try to pass something and sort of force it on the house or it's possible that they could take a bill that they've already passed back in july with the threshold of those tax hikes being at the $250,000 level. and that they could kind of say to the house, now the ball is in your court, you have to deal with this, it's still very much a possibility, don, that this doesn't work out, that we go over the fiscal cliff, and that was reflected today on the sunday shows from both democrats and republicans, take a listen. >> passing plan b the other night would not have changed the outcome, we're going to go over the cliff before, we're going to go over the cliff now. you cannot negotiate with someone that doesn't want to
negotiate. >> in the aftermath of the house republicans rejecting speaker boehn boehner's plan b, i feel it's more likely we will go over the cliff than not, and that -- if we allow that to happen, it will be the most colossal consequence shall act of congressional irresponsibleability in a long time. maybe ever in american history. >> officially, the president is expected to be here -- or is supposedly here in hawaii through the new year, i think the expectation at this point is that with congress returning, president obama is likely to go back to washington to oversee things as they move. or as the fiscal cliff comes nearer and the u.s. goes over it. >> can we expect any other lawmakers to step up to the plate and kick start negotiations? what about senate minority leader mitch mcconnell? >> well, the thing at this point
and i'm told by sources is that there are no negotiations going on between senator mitch mcconnell, the republican leader in the senate, and senator majority leader harry reid in hawaii for the funeral of daniel inouye and is now back to washington. it could come down to the senate doing something. senator mcconnell might allow this bill i mentioned that i already passed in july, was a threshold for tax hikes, being at the $250,000 level, he may allow democrats to say, the house has to take this, or if there is some sort of vote on another measure, while mitch mcconnell would be unlikely to support it, perhaps he might let some of his republican senators do that, now, this is sort of thinking, coming from democrats, this is not something that mitch mcconnell at this point is planning to do, and it's very much unclear. the fact is, it doesn't just matter what the senate does, don, the house would have to
pass something. and whatever were to come out of the senate at this point would require not just republican support, they made that clear last week when they didn't support speaker boehner's plan b. it would come down to speaker boehner deciding whether or not he would allow some sort of measure to go to the floor. and that is especially uncertain. >> cnn's brianna keeler. tonight one of the u.s. navy's deployed special forces commanders is dead. he was in afghanistan and military investigators are working on the belief that he took his own life. here's our pentagon correspondent barbara starr with what few details we have so far. >> reporter: very sad news this holiday weekend for u.s. navy s.e.a.l.s. the navy is investigating the death in afghanistan of one of its most senior deployed s.e.a.l. officers as an apparent suicide. a u.s. military official tells
cnn. navy commander joe w price 42 years old, died december 22nd, while serving as the commanding officer of s.e.a.l. team 4. a group of more than 2 dozen commandos conducting combat operations in the southern command of the country. that u.s. military official who's directly familiar with the event said the family has been notified of the death, and has been notified and is being investigated as an apparent suicide. there is no indication at this time that commander price was involved in any military related investigations or any controversies the officials said. all indications are, when he did not appear at an expected time. other military personnel went to look for him and discovered his body with an apparent gunshot wound. don? >> bash remark thank you. the president wants a group, headed by the vice president to bring him recommendations on
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republicans who haven't done anything with gun control. including our president. who four years ago was campaigning against people who wanted to cling to their guns and religion, and now in november we saw him wanting to cling to the votes of the people who cling to their votes and their religion. we saw shootings in the midst of this campaign, don. we saw the aurora shooting, we saw the sikh temple shooting, happened smack in the middle of this campaign, and this issue, not be discussed, not be debated in what was a very long and testy, heated campaign. so i don't think it's true, or right to say it's the democrats or the republicans. what we cannot have is a conversation where we're blaming each other. where the media is blaming the guns, where the gun industry is blaming the liberals, where the liberals are blaming the violent video games. we have to have a comprehensive conversation, and it be a
constructive conversation. not one where people are trying to escape their responsibility and blame it on some other industry or some other faction. >> well, i think in your -- >> well, i -- >> in your response, there's a different between democratic and republican lawmakers. i will agree with you republicans who are lawmakers are not doing anything when it comes to gun rules or gun legislation. republicans and democrats who are citizens in this country and voters would like to see something different, the majority of them when it comes to gun rules. >> and we're going to have to make it happen. on the side of people who don't want any changes with gun rules. most of those people are republicans and gun enthusiasts. go ahead. >> i wanted to say that -- >> we citizens are going to -- >> let anna respond and i'll let you go, elzi. >> we have three different
chambers -- three different areas of government. there's a lot that the executive branch can do. there's a lot of leadership that president obama can provide that he's not provided on this issue. and there's a lot of hearts and minds that have to change in congress. a lot of them republican, and also some democrats. i think it's up to us as citizens if we want to see changes happen, to take off the party label and demand it of our elected officials. a lot of times politicians act because the citizens are demanding it and crying out for it. that's what has to happen on this issue. we have to lead and they will follow. >> i always say our democratic issue -- and it is, it's going to take all of us to do it. and we have to take the politics out of it. elzi, i'll give you the last word. go ahead and go on as long as you want. sorry i cut you off.
>> what she described is a microcosm of what's wrong in washington. our elected officials and the president are supposed to be defenders of the second amendment. there's defenders of the constitution. not a lobbying group, but it's the lobbyists who have our government by the throats, not the voters, the lobbyists. you're seeing politicians make decisions based on what they think the money is going to say. the nra is one example. once upon a time, we were against cigarette companies and tobacco companies to do the right thing. what we're experiencing right now, is the same thing we're going to continue to experience until we get serious about the way we're being governed and who's governing us. >> thank you. their job was to make people laugh, but not these days. how a connecticut morning radio show has become a way for listeners to heal.
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a morning show usually sounds like a fraternity show. after the sandy hook shooting, the dejays got serious and started taking calls from people trying to deal with tragedy. >> friday was strange. we went from in the morning doing one of the most happy, upbeat, fun shows of the year. >> next year's going to be even better. >> to in the afternoon doing the saddest show of our careers. >> he was one of the first responders to the scene. how are you? >> i'm doing okay. >> never in your life could you imagine you'd pull up to a scene so horrific? >> absolutely not. there's certain things that
people shouldn't see. >> every moment it was getting worse and worse, we couldn't help but feel, okay, did we reach the bottom? >> my sister's behavioral therapist. >> is she okay? >> we don't know. we haven't heard from her. >> how long ago did she start there? >> her second week there. >> she's probably very busy right now. >> absolutely. she'll probably be very terrified when she gets home, right now her priority is her children. >> monday we had her on the show, and she was not okay. >> we're sorry for your loss. >> thank you. we're all surprised and shocked. >> there's a threshold for a nightma nightmare. this left nightmare in the rearview mirror. >> my heart goes out to parents, they'll never be the same. >> the fact that folks were able to call in and get it out of their system, i think it helped them, it helped us. >> jim in sandy hook. >> i'm a father of a third
grader that attends the school. you can imagine how our world's have been turned upside down. >> frank in shelton. >> very close family friend of ours lost his son. >> gretschen in seymour. >> you bring home to all of us who remain hopeless. >> barry? >> i don't know how any of these parents are doing what they're doing? >> a tough day, and then a harder day. and then -- >> we can't change what's happened. >> scott? >> a close friend of mine thought his son was one of the victims. >> mary. >> how are you? >> we're hanging in. >> we all are, it's really tough. >> at the cemetery also, there was probably 200 to 300 firefighters. >> all lined up along the funeral route. >> they're having their service for his son today in newtown. >> it was a lovely poem. may i share it with you. >> please. >> please don't cry, we went on
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one hour. that's how long the messer family dedicates each day prepping for the end. it's not what you think. they believe in something much more down to earth, global economic collapse. and they are ready for the civil unrest they believe will follow it or could follow it. mike and lisa messer join me now. it's almost like the great depression, when people are starving and they're having to ration things, you will have
supplies that you can rely on in case that happens? >> well, that's true, and we do have a lot of supplies that are out there, my wife and i made a decision a long time ago. we have people we care about, we have friends and neighbors. and those are things we're going to try to keep as best we can together. >> give me an idea of some of the things -- a list of some of the things that your family is doing to prepare? >> couponing. we do a lot of that stuff. that's how we get a lot of our supplies. our college students. we prepare them to move out of home. so they are more aware of what's going on around them. >> as we were talking, as we were preparing the segment, you mentioned super storm sandy, one of the biggest things that -- the highest commodity things was d sized batteries. do you stock up on things like
that? >> yeah, we stock up on batteries. we don't have a bunker. >> there are people out there that have bunkers. there's that moniker that's out there of a doomsday prepper. doomsday is pretty absolute to us. >> you don't like that? >> no, it's stereotyping someone who's preparing for an event. and using the term prepper it's something that's going to disrupt their style of living. if you look at the things that occurred in major disasters that are out there. you mentioned super storm sandy. you saw the community start to come together. and once people start realizing that basic preparedness, emergency preparedness starts at the local level and then moves its way up to the federal level, then it's a whole different game that's out there. people are less of a liability that way, because they do have
some provisions. >> you don't call it a bunker, but if something were to happen, how long will these supplies last? >> depends on how many people are going to show up at our door. we have lots of friends that don't prepare. >> i know, i asked for your address, it's like the twilight zone, people with the bunker, let me in. >> we have very good friends and they're the same way, i'm coming to your house. okay, come to my house. the question is, will you be able to get to your house. >> if it's just your family, a longer period of time. >> we're ready for ten people for two years. >> it gives you piece of mind? >> absolutely. and i get asked the question, well, what are you fearing? i'm not fearing anything. that is what gives us peace of mind the fact that it's there. >> and if you can do it, and it's not harming anyone else. >> i could go out and spend that
money on golf clubs, cruises or something like that, we choose to spend it on something that's tangible that we believe is there, that we can use. >> let's hope you never have to use it. thank you very much. the gun debate dominated the sunday morning talk shows. we'll get you up to speed next. [ coughs ] [ baby crying ] ♪ [ male announcer ] robitussin® liquid formula soothes your throat on contact and the active ingredient relieves your cough. robitussin®. don't suffer the coughequences™.
just past half past the hour, look at your headlines right now. more than 100 people were killed in syria today, civilians doing nothing more than waiting in line for bread. witnesses say a syrian military aircraft dropped bombs on this small village and hit a bakery where people were gathered to try to get food. the hospitals cannot handle all the casualties. some washington lawmakers sound gloomy about the chances for a compromise deal on the fiscal cliff.
>> nine days to get a deal done. house speaker boehner is in ohio. president obama in hawaii. today we say aloha to an american hero, the late senator daniel inouye was remembered with full military honors in hawaii. the 88-year-old senator lost his arm in world war ii, he represented hawaii in washington for more than 50 years. president obama and the first lady attended today's service. the president has said inouye was his earliest political inspiration. many gun shop owners say sales have been booming. thousands of north texans visited local gun shows and stores this weekend where the most powerful weapons are costing more than ever. a gun dealer told our affiliate that an assault style weapon ran around $900.
this week anywhere from 1500 to $2500 many in just a few minutes my conversation with a gun shop owner, several former police officers and a school safety expert who says the current call for bringing guns into schools for safety is in his words, borderline insane. an estimated 87 million americans will be traveling over the holidays, and the weather is already complicating their plans. jennifer delgado has the holiday forecast. jennifer? >> it's hard to believe we're only two days away from christmas, everybody wants to know the forecast, and we started off on christmas eve, we're going to be looking at rain out there. as well as some snow in the higher elevations, um toward parts of the ohio valley and the east coast. we're going to be watching the chance for severe storms setting up across parts of texas as well as louisiana. now, a storm system is going to be coming in out of the four corners, and this is going to mean a white christmas for some areas. what areas are we talking about?
for southern missouri as well as arkansas, can you see snow there, down toward the south, we're talking about rain and heavy rain at times. let's track this through the future for you. as we go later into the day. we're talking the ohio valley looking at snow and windy conditions. >> jennifer, we're not going to budge. it's a message from the national rifle association, making clear today it's opposition to any new gun laws in the wake of the connecticut shooting. the group's ceo is standing by remarks he made at an event on friday. barbara star has more on the debate that dominated the sunday morning talk shows. >> newtown. >> newtown. >> newtown. >> newtown. >> how many more? >> performers and artists joining with 800 mayors calling for a plan to end gun violence. but the chief executive officer of the nra made clear on nbc's "meet the press" that his
organization will oppose legislation adding new restrictions to the sale of weapons or high capacity ammunition magazines. >> i know there's a media machine in this country that wants to blame guns every time something happens. i know there's an anti-second amendment industry in this town. another political -- always try to say it's because americans own guns. i'm telling you what i think will make people say it, when they drop their kid off at school in january, as if we have a police officer in that school, a good guy -- >> the last of the new town massacre victims are laid to rest. the nra has taken the position that armed security officers in schools are a major part of its solution. >> i have found the statements for the nra over the last couple days to be really disheartening. because the statements seem to not reflect any understanding
about the slaughter of children, that happened in newtown, connecticut. >> here's what bothered me, the nra spokespeople have been willing to deal with every possible cause of gun violence except guns. >> school districts across the country have grappled for years over the question of security. but advocates of more gun laws offer this. they remind everyone there was an armed security officer at the columbine high school the day of that 1999 massacre. and they say controlling gun violence requires a package of solutions beyond the schoolhouse door. barbara starr, cnn, washington. as promised, a frank and sometimes very heated discussion about the gun debate. you don't want to miss it next. . or you can get out there and actually share something. ♪ the lexus december to remember sales event is on.
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virginia tech, here in connecticut, these were mentally disturbed people, mentally unstable people who slipped through the cracks, whose family, whose mental health care professionals didn't take the steps to have them petition the court to have them medically adjudicated so they couldn't possess a weapon. the virginia tech shooter had a semiautomatic pistol. we've got to try to identify these people before they commit these acts. >> he had -- there were guns -- the common link is a gun. someone who is crazy, i have crazy people in my family, everyone knows a crazy person. the thing that the crazy person doesn't have access to in most families is a gun. >> correct. you're absolutely correct. and that's where those families
and those mental health care professionals that treated these individuals failed this country. they failed this country by not taking steps to petition the court to have these people mentally adjudicated defective. only through that, if they go to a store and try to buy a firearm, they're denied. >> you're talking about mental health. why aren't you as focused and as passionate about looking at gun laws and gun rules in this country as you are about people with mental health? it seems that it's just one point. most people are saying it should be a multipronged approach. and for gun enthusiasts and the nra the responsibility is never with the nra, never with gun owners, it's always with video games, other things outside of that, when people are not being killed because they're watching the video game, they're being killed because they have access to a gun. >> it's incumbent upon everybody in this country, whether you're a firearms owner or not, to work
together to identify people who shouldn't have firearms. we have, as i mentioned, 150 million people in homes that have at least one firearm. 200 million guns that we're talking about -- >> we should be working on identifying people who should not have access to guns, we cannot just do that and not take a look at gun laws. >> gun people are trying to push this off as mental illness. the truth,his mother bought the gun, there's no evidence he was mentally ill prior to the shooting, and the shootingself is not enough evidence of mental illness. studies show that 75% of the mass murderers are legally sane. >> we're having a pattern now where people are failing to safeguard these weapons, that's an educational issue. it would have been nice if the nra had come out and reminded their base of support of the importance in this particular area. i think maybe how we should
approach this is institute a moratorium for a short period of time. let things cool down, let everybody kind of depoliticize this topic and come at this thing intelligently. the reality of the situation, and i say this remorsefully, i am not convinced that an assault rifle ban is going to curtail this activity. one of the problems is, that in their opwisdom, the firearms industry introduced this particular weapon to the united states general populous, and it's been assumed since that point. you can only imagine how many of these are floating around already. >> i have an interesting tweet that said all recent mass killings were committed by 18 to 25-year-old young men who are white. are you saying we should start profiling white men? >> i think we should ask the question, why is america 30% white guys and 30% of the mass
shootings in the last decades have been at the hands of white g guys. i'm not saying we should racially profile white guys. should the shooters been arabs or african-american men, i think the conversation right now would be a very different conversation where we'd be having a much less new answer nuanced conversation. not to say they should be racially profiled, but why is the composite so similar? let's explore that, because it's an important question in light of a political climate where there's a lot of what i call the white victimization out there. the idea that white people are being kept down and oppressed, does this have anything to do with this. >> if you try to make a profile, how many people are going to fit that profile? at least 500,000. maybe for or five million. you cannot predict rare events.
that is the problem. >> i think you should just have an awareness of everyone in your space, and when you see off-color behavior be guided accordingly. >> thanks to all my guests last night. my next guest calls the idea of bringing guns into schools to keep kids safe borderline insane, and he's an expert on school safety. that's next. sfx- "sounds of african drum and flute" look who's back. again? it's embarrassing it's embarrassing! we can see you carl. we can totally see you. come on you're better than this...all that prowling around.
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the conversations about school safety after the shooting at sandy hook elementary are endless. the president of national school safety and security services. those conversations are borderline insane. i asked him why. >> i tell you, don, the devil's always in the details of implementation, even if you entertain the idea, which i don't of bulletproof backpacks. if you understand how schools work, most schools, the kids put the backpacks in the lockers anyway. what are you going to do in gym class anyway? i have a vision of kids running around in gym, with book bags over their heads. it doesn't make sense. armed police officers do a lot of preventative work relationships with kids. the funding for that's been cut more and more for the past five or six years as has prevention. and -- but you start talking -- you know, teachers want to be armed with textbooks and computers and every teacher i
talk with at my kid's school and elsewhere said no thanks, no way, no how. but the conversation just goes on like wildfire and we're missing the fundamentals. let's talk about the counselors, the psychologists, the social workers who have been pulled from schools in recent years. the lack of training, basic access to your buildings. and the list goes on and on. there are a lot of people in our schools who want reasonable practical help now. >> let me jump in here, my thing is, for the thrill of being able to -- is that worth the safety of a kid, because these are recreational rifles we're talking about. and that's what most people use them for. you can't use them to protect your home or use them to hunt. leaders of the nra have said they will not budge an inch against new gun laws. david keen was on cbs "face the nation" i want you to listen.
>> the first thing we have to do is protect our kids. we're willing to debate the whole question of the semiautomatic so-called assault weapons, we've debated it before. we had an assault weapon -- so-called assault weapons ban for ten years, we had what senator feinstein is suggesting, it was allowed to expire, the fbi, the justice department and others, the studies made no difference. if we're looking at things that are effective, let's talk about it, but first, let's talk about protecting our kids. >> you heard what david keen, who's the nra president had to say on cbs face the nation regarding gun laws, what do you think? >> well, with all due respect to the nra, and i believe in the second amendment in general, but i also believe that i won't pretend to be a gun rights lobbyist if they don't pretend to be school security experts. that way we can respect our field. one gun in the hands of a kid is
one too many in a school. when we look at the firepower, i think we need to have some rational conversations on the gun issue and stop politicize. within 24 hours, we started circling the wagons on this issue. and yes, that needs to be a conversation, we also need to balance out that conversation, what are we going to do when kids come back to school in two weeks and how do we pull back all these other resources that we know work in schools, that we've taken away. and i just want a practical conversation that's helpful in the big picture in the long term on gun issues and broader societal issues. but i also want to see the conversation on what are we going to put in the schools in the next few weeks to give people resources who need the help. we haven't had conversations, it's fall tonight wayside, budgets have been cut. i want some practical stuff and
i want something that's going to help the principal when they get back to school. the political rhetoric and tone of this, has to be not ratcheted up, toned down and serious on all ends, and stop circling the wagons, taking it -- politicize it, using it for -- to further the agendas and let's get real. hundreds of gun control advocates hold a vigil today on the brooklyn bridge. demonstrators marched and called for tighter gun controls. they stopped in the middle of the bridge and read the names of the 26 people massacred at newtown school. some demonstrators chanted no more guns. barry manilow has a new cd, his fourth christmas album. he tells cnn why he's so drawn to holiday music next.
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what i love about the christmas songs, they come from the world of a melody and lyric. this is a real melody and real lyric, that kind of song writing is going down the drain. these christmas albums give me an opportunity to go back and sing songs that have great melodies and a great lyric. i play around with santa claus is coming to town and that's fun too. >> i like the family. you know, when i'm on the road, i'm -- my band and crew become the family. right now i have ten people and six dogs. can you think of any other way to make yourself happy?
santa may not be delivering presents to one house in seattle. genie moos explains. >> maybe if this homeowner had measured better, his christmas tree wouldn't have burst through the roof. >> that's crazy. >> what's crazy is how crazy everyone is about this christmas stunt. he artfully arranged jingles around it. >> your house is proof that the price of trees has gone through the roof. >> seattle architect patrick kruger has always been a huge fan of the movie christmas vacation in which the main character is obsessed with the perfect tree. >> there it is. >> ,